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Even rarer by my count. Including playable day 13, I count 40 Dylan events, 21 Ellie, 10 Sam and 8 Patricia events.
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Where has L&P mentioned the number of scenes for Sam and Patricia, I never across anything like that till now.
Also more Dylan scenes is very understandable. Firstly his progress has to be the slowest, secondly he is the most popular character and though Ellie is close we all know lots of people love hetero stuff ( I prefer the lesbian route, so please don't count me among them ).
Also lot of Dylan events are really small and filler content type.
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L&P has an issue with incest between M/S but not with M/D. He thinks that a mother can't give herself to her son as easily as to her daughter. That is the reason why the development between them is unfortunately so slow.
I was starting from the premise that they get an alone moment.
Getting back to the logistics, Patricia could pick up Sophia and Ellie (like for the night club) and drive them to the concert. Most probably Ellie will leave just after the concert as she said she has also other arrangements and that is the opportunity for Sam to offer a lift to Sophia letting Patricia go back alone without the detour to drop Sophia.
Or simply the alone moment would be a walk on the beach while the others are talking.
But obviously there is also the possibility, as you said, that nothing really big happens or even that Sam is hooked up with Ellie, which I hope not... We need everything but new branches in this game!
Let's not forget that he will take some weeks off for vacation at some point
(I edited the previous post, sorry, it was you that said that alcohol won't be decisive in Sam's event
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Sam has an event coming up on day 13 that we know of (that I included in his 10), Patricia has the museum date on day 14, and the horse ranch event on day 15 (which I didn't, because we don't know the number of Dylan events on day 14).
I just want to clarify one thing here on the subject. I don't like the Sam Route, but I am against any shortening of the story or the omission of individual (different) routes. On the one hand it would make the overall story more boring for me and on the other hand out of respect for the people who like the Sam Route, for example.
And I also clarify that I'm not a Sam's fan, I don't particularly like him (because of the sneaky behaviour with the wine for example) but I don't despise him either. What I wrote was just for the pure sake of speculation
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I too agree with that notion. A mother daughter premise is bound to move faster than a mother son.
Also what matters is approach. Ellie's approach is through the bath, Sophia is already nude there. So things can only go ahead of that.
Also Ellie can't penetrate Sophia ( not without any toys atleast ), Dylan can and get Sophia pregnant, so that is a bit too risky. The level of threat you feel from a male can't be anything like a female. I mean the general thought in Sophia's mind is that Ellie and she are both women, so there is nothing special that she has which Ellie doesn't. Moving forward gets much easier.
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In my spreadsheet I've got a list of the 97 events we know of. Then I've just gone through and added columns for the characters. Ticked off if a character is in an event (including the ones we've only seen once like Larry and DeShawn) and tallied it down the bottom
"Just us girls" is the reason they get away with so much. Might even be an excuse Sophia uses as to why she's out on a schoolnight and going to Sam's concert in the first place, like she does for the nightclub event. And probably will for the museum one too.
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It's bound to move faster but not in the progression that it's moving in right now, which is why she should be one step above Dylan in progression. At the end of the day, Sophia/Ellie are M/D, and if you read L&P's thoughts on M/S, It should be applied to M/D as well, but maybe a one step forward. So it's not just about penetrating, it's about the feelings one should have towards their "household" members.
Ellie should be moving roughly at the same pace as Dylan if you apply L&P's logic here.
It's not my intention to defend Sam, but as far as I know he didn't know about the effect of alcohol on Sophia's libido.
Sophia knows her weaknesses so it's a deliberate choice on her part, and the fact that a man tries to open any unlocked door is a genetic issue, the fault of mother nature.
Sophia knows her weaknesses so it's a deliberate choice on her part, and the fact that a man tries to open any unlocked door is a genetic issue, the fault of mother nature.
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I guess he has different logic for women and men, that's why all women move faster and are actually better characters.
In terms of feelings, I kinda feel Dylan took the lead in the last event. Sophia started seeing him more than a son but this is something not emphasized anywhere for Ellie. For Ellie she is more concerned as a mother about her daughter's sexual life, that too because Ellie asked her about it. Physically ofcourse Ellie is ahead, she uses others as her shield, like first she used Patricia, then Julia saying if she can do it for them, she should do it for her too. Dylan does not have any such reference or person to use to his advantage.
So in the end as I said, it really comes down to the approach. Ellie has a better approach hence progresses faster than Dylan, plus the natural advantage
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Oh come on, if a woman asks for water and you bring her alcohol, the intention should be clear. Even if Sam does not benefit from the effect of (even) small amounts on Sophia. Sam didn't grow up in a monastery. But Sophia (or the player !?) could have refused the glass.
bringing her alcohol IS an attempt to open another door
. Sorry, baby, be more careful next time Stop playing with matches or you'll burn yourself.
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He did, in a way. But I didn't like the method used to "Crack the Ice" with her feelings. The "Hero" theme was a corny way to advance that scene or a cliche. Plus, when you read the text in that scene, Dylan only moved the need a millimeter when Sophia said this. I think he could deliver this scene with a different approach that could have been more effective.
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And yes, it is about the approach, but again, Ellie is in the same boat with Dylan, and at the end of the day, Ellie is Sophia's "Best Friend,
" so the logic that's being applied to Dylan should apply to Ellie.
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Oh, merde, you French and your wine namesIf Sophia participates in the homeless aid program, then you will see that she will be corrupted by accepting to drink red wine
And usually the red wine of the homeless, it's not a ' Saint-Emilion ' or a ' Châteauneuf-du-Pape '
.It's all super holy but look what it does to women.
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